Planned Melonhood 2018: post-playa survey results


Number of Melons who completed the survey: 65
Number of Melons in 2018: 80

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6. If your plans changed on your way TO or FROM Burning Man, please explain:
I messaged a burner coming from Vegas and planned to ride with her from Reno to BRC. I bought a Megabus ticket SF to Reno but forfeited that because when I landed in SF my burner friends from Dubai happened to be on their way to BRC and picked me up!
I came on the bus but I left earlier than expected with XXX in her car.
I changed my return plans to drive back with the CaliTruck to San Diego.
Flat tire on the road to!
I missed my flight on the way in- I could have made it in 8 theoretically.
I had not planned ahead of time when or how I was getting home. The 9 hours of exodus was influenced by RV breaking down on the way to Reno.
Unexpected delays from BRC to San Francisco caused significant increase in travel time
To: Left later than expected due to driver not being fully prepared at previously agreed upon departure time. Not a big deal From BRC: I arrived with intention to hitchhike to Reno from the gate. However, in the first few days at camp it struck me that a slew of these new friends live in Reno and I consequently started asking around. Initially I was going to catch a ride with XXX, but on Sunday night they decided to leave then instead of our initially agreed upon departure time of early Monday morning. (I say this without a smidgeon of shade.) I asked around again and ended up catching a ride with XXX We left around 4 AM. ] RV broke down throughout our trip back, which meant it took around 6–8 hours to make it to the main highway to Reno. Once we got to that highway, it didn’t seem like it was going to run again so he called AAA. XXX was also with us, and since she lives in Reno she graciously called XXX to pick us up.
I made two trips in and out this year. I made the mistake of leaving after the temple burn and should have waited until the next morning.
Bought a pack of socks. I did not plan on buying this pack of socks. I am thankful I bought these socks.
Had to leave 1 day early due to work
I left later than expected and left earlier than expected



10. There is a lot of information that needs to be shared before Burning Man (i.e. the emails from the Planned Melonhood listhost). Do you have any suggestions on better ways to distribute that information?
An open-sourced Google drive that everyone can add to.
AOL instant messenger? Or how bout chirp from Nextel? Not really- a quaint mailer might be funny, although expensive and laborious and moopy.
Both the emails to the listhost and notifications of facebook posts showed up in my email inbox with a [planned melonhood] header, making it difficult to distinguish official emails from frivolous facebook posts.
Emails are great:) Also the melon Facebook group is nice
Emails are perfect for me! Can read the non-sensitive ones at my leisure.
Emails were great and very helpful! Thanks
Emails with friendly Facebook reminders work well in my book!
Even if for some busy default-world-melons and virgins the heaps of information can be overwhelming but in still convinced that email is a good way of communication and (I believe) burningmelon.org also has all important info. Maybe we could try to always link burningmelon.org in emails for information which is available there but I'm sure you already do. Oh and i love the tl;dr!!!
Great use of the recipe / cooking prep suggestions (eg cut this at home to save time and water on playa) - I loved the organization there - very helpful!
I do not
I find that the emails work just fine for me. I read them all and file them away for future reference, if needed. No need to change in my opinion!
I like the way that things were spaced out throughout the months, so it wasn't too overwhelming. I also liked the TLDR at the top to summarize. I don't think any other platform would catch everyone. Minor suggestion, using email color or formatting to help communicate the important items more clearly. Also would suggest more clear structure and timing re: dinner emails - it seemed like things were a bit disorganized with group + dinner captain, without clear timelines. Could also be earlier vs. a last-minute rush to the burn.
I loved the emails and was filled with gratitude BEFORE even getting to playa because of all the work the XVC put in to get us all organized. Thank you, thank you.
I think the XVC does a great job with this, and if folks are unprepared it’s because they didn’t follow along OR their referral did not take their responsibility seriously.
I thought the emails were good! Also appreciate the Melon website.
I thought the emails were the best way to communicate.
I'm happy with emails
It would be convenient if they were all posted somewhere together (in addition to emails). Does this already exist? I was on top of my email reading when they arrived but upon subsequent digging thru email threads to find a specific detail, the struggle was real.
It would be nice to have an email that goes out shortly after camp registration opens that says roughly when to expect emails about major camp things (dinner, build weekend, bikes, storage, registration pt 2, etc.)
No, but the clear emphasis on checking emails was helpful.
No. Email is a universal way of communicating important information (except if someone lives in China).
No. Emails are a part of adult life in 2018 and if you don't read them then you don't need to be in our camp.
Please start sending emails earlier and not sending them in just last two weeks. Thank you.
Slack for comments and chat; Email for notice updates Use a Mailchimp-like email distro service, open rates and by whom can be tracked in the free version
Speaking with friends was really helpful to get me prepared. Although I was not super diligent in reading emails (I can improve that) I would think that email is the best way to communicate this information.
The emails can certainly be long, but they seem to be the best way to get the info in people's faces. The website is an excellent backup/permanent resource.
the melon emails are awesome
We do the best we can. There's no one way to get everyone on the same medium and guarantee everyone reads the emails. Although- perhaps if we sent the emails as HTML bodies, or with a listserv host like mailchimp, we could at least get analytics on who reads them and who doesn't?? How do those things work?
You guys already do a great job
You guys crush it!!!!



12. What were you the least prepared for?

(searches brain for things, finds nothing)
Carrying a water vessel that encouraged large and rapid consumption and easy refilling.
Chilly nights/mornings!
Cold weather.
Colder nights
Could nights
cuticle destruction
Dust creeping into my tent.
Dust. I could have used more changes of clothes.
dust. cold.
Felt good this year - I'd like to bring my own bike next year - with more storage space and lights.
Food for after the man burns. Lighting myself at night.
hmm. nothing
I didn’t have a proper dust mask for this year and the scarves and handkerchiefs weren’t good enough.
I forgot hand sanitizer this year and accidentally bought transparent tape for ad blocking
I forgot my dust mask. :-(
I forgot my toiletries at home, user error. Nothing else.
I forgot to buy Baileys for my coffee - but then my friend brought me some when she arrived on playa on Tuesday. So, all in all, I did okay.
I lost a headlamp half way through and needed to barrow a friend's.
I needed more lights on my person and my bike
I would get a better tent suitable for dust/sand conditions.
intensity of dust storms
It being too hot in our tent
LED lights for bikes and me
Lights at night, but I was adequately warned; and costumes, but hard to know how to dress till you get there
My lips were like the state of California - that is to say, they were on fire. Was also woefully underprepared for dust (mostly emotionally).
My tent was crap. It was too small and the zipper broke so it wouldn't even zip closed.
n/a
Nothing important
Sleep deprivation!
Sleeping in the heat
The cold at night
The cold nights. Just barely had enough layers to not be too cold out in deep playa.
The cold right before dawn!
The cold, but only because I didn't wanna wear my bulky coat and I hadn't brought enough layers to compensate.
The cold. Last year I had a warmer tent, and this year I lent my warmer sleeping bag to my friend, so getting through the night was a bit tougher!
The psychological changes pre and post burn.
the vibe
the wind and the dust. It was just sooooo windy.
Type of Tent LEDs
Wish I'd had more, thinner layers for evenings. Otherwise, everything was smooth.
Work, work, work.


13. Was there anything you wish you had packed?

1980’s era ski bunny kit
A better dust mask. And a better tent with less mesh. And an extra fleece or lightweight blanket.
A bigger jacket! More intricate gifts C Batteries
a few more AA batteries and a shiftpod
A real jacket or coat. Padding for beneath my sleeping bag.
A sheet to cover everything in the tent during the day.
A shift pod.
Back up lights for the bike (mine broke).
Better baby wipes. A warmer jacket/robe. Better lights. Maybe an instrument? My own bike?
better dust storm goggles, better night time lights for bike/outfit
Brighter light for inside my tent. More cold, fuzzy beverages and juices. Bike lights that are more durable with easier to replace batteries. Renting a bike that actually has a kickstand. A larger day / night bag.
chapstick (thank god for XXX's gifts) broader assortment of condom types/brands apple cider vinegar 2x as many socks as days; was only able to change post-dinner about half my days this year
cuticle cream
Different shoes
Disposable cameras.
Dry shampoo
El-Wire for bikes. Extra pairs of sunglasses. Apple cider vinegar!! Sealable portable cup
extra car keys
Forgot earplugs, could amp up wardrobe in future
I pretty much had the basics I needed
Just hand sanitizer ha.
LED lights and a warmer jacket
LEDs Better Costumes
Less cloths and duct tape.
Less food, more fun outfits
Long underwear top. I had long under wear bottoms
More AA batteries
More bike tubes.
More cold weather gear, more lights to wear, food I actually want to eat, & XXX's party pope attire
more dust masks
More inflatable melons More coconut oil Towel
More labels for my stuff, so it didn't get lost. More hammocks :)
More layers.
more lights! lights on my bike and lights on my night jackets. more cool outfits. better shoes for walking!
More long underwear, per above. More shemaghs. Some kind of flooring/surface for inside & outside my tent door to manage dust.
More long-sleeves
My cat
My dust mask.
n/a
no
No
Non-hippy sunscreen that didn't turn my skin blue/have zinc as the active ingredient.
Not really
Perhaps change my clothes up a bit to have more loungey items to just throw on in a hustle.
playa coat, better mask
Soda and sparkling water to refresh and settle the stomach.
Soda pop!
Sometimes I wanted a big warm coat, but mostly I got by okay with sweaters. Ball bearings for my bicycle, lol Refreshing non-alcoholic drinks to put in the communal cooler. I think folks want more of this than we realize (I certainly do), and we might promote bringing beer AND other things.
Swamp cooler
Warm clothes


14. What did you bring that you won't bring next year?

1/2 of my clothes
100 more protein bars than I needed
A cute paper parasol that is not mine but has lived in my box for 3 years. I also will not bring costumes that do not breath- apparently it's hot out there.
A little less food. A little less sunscreen / lotion.
A respirator and respirator backups.
a yurt
alot of excess camping gear
Cutlery, Too many hand-sanitizers
energy bars
Extra food
Food
Gloves
gum
Hippy sunscreen. 85 larabars.
Hopefully not as much anxiety. I brought wayyy too much peanut butter.
I brought twice as much clothing as I needed... I brought an old phone that I thought I'd use to take pictures but I ended up using my regular phone. I brought mylar blankets and rain ponchos that I didn't need, but I guess it's better to have them than not have them.
I prepared for a colder burn, had some clothes left over
I would bring less personal food
I would pack less food, less wipes
Less duct tape and a better travel bag for personal gear.
less food. i always bring too much dried fruit & nuts.
Less whiskey. (I know.. right? Who says this?)
Long johns and a neck warmer (too much cold gear)
Most of the clothes (especially the default ones). Most of the backpacker meals (tasty bites are WAY better).
My belly fat hahaha
Nice base layer clothing. Didn't touch 'em and won't be bringing any next year.
Reduce quantity of clothing items, essential oils, vinegar (didnt use it), extra towel
So many default-world clothes! So many freeze-dried meals.
So many goddamn mugs; what was I thinking? Quite so many perishables; getting through them all was a challenge. Onesie. I bring it every year and never f-ing wear it. Who am I kidding, though...
So. Much. Sunscreen. And food I don't even want in default world
Some things for the bike repair station: Crank bearings not necessary, also I got too much grease and lubricant (but we can use it foreeeeever)
XXX.
Such a large quantity of food
To many clean clothes to wear after we got off the playa.
Too many clothes
Too many leggings. And a giant onsie that’s not ideal for the porta potties:.
too much clothing
too much food.
Too much personal food that I never touched, but I took back home - there were lots of leftovers and communal food. Reading materials that I never actually touched.
unused costumes
Way too many energy bars; my kindle.


15. Do you have any additional pre-playa planning thoughts? Any additional information we should share ahead of time? Suggestions on effective ways to share that information?

A list of things to bring turned out to be the most helpful. I made use of the melon site's list, which was the most helpful because it also mentioned what *not* to bring, and a friend's list as well.
An interesting idea may be to have a 2nd time burner "translate" emails from the XVC to a more tl;dr format? I.e. two different perspectives on same topic. Just a thought- I know those emails are verbose for good reason and a pain in the ass to write, and I'm grateful to not write them.
Battery recycling station, I made sure to bring my batteries home Dinner Captain checklist for "on the day of" would be helpful for newbie captains
Can't think of anything…
Dinner is very organized. Breakfast I was not sure about the process or what was available to eat that was the camps.
Don't forget to prepare mentally.
Explain the kitchen like you were giving a tour to the playa health department. It's a bitchin kitchen and I think we should brag about it. The meals, cleanliness, efficiency, community eating/sharing, and leftovers, for starters. Talk about the purple dot crew and consent before the playa. It was also a bitchin addition to camp that could be 'advertised' more.
Hm, I think the number one thing in my mind is the sheer number of snacks we had left as a group. I feel like excess is inevitable given the fact that more is better than less but maybe a reiteration of the need to be very intentional with food that is brought could be good (or even sharing a picture of the snack table at the end of the week if there is one, just as visual reinforcement?)
I have no suggestions - I thought sufficient information was communicated pre-playa in an effective way.
I relied heavily on friends that had BM experience as my source for preparation and I think that the information that was given was sufficient.
I think having a standard camp-themed label on a standard label size (e.g., 30 labels per sheet) for everyone to print off and label their things at home. (I can help mail merge if someone helps with the design next year.) More information re: don't bring too much food and be prepared to share your communal food early OR take it back home.
I think we share info in a million different ways; it's up to melons to be radically self-reliant in seeking out that info, which we present pretty clearly and in an organized fashion.
I thought there could be more specific info tailored to virgins. I.e. I didnt know there was a melon ball until it came up on facebook thanks to someone asking a question about it.
It might be really nice to have a shared google sheets packing list that the Melons could collaborate on. I came up with my own packing list but as a virgin burner and virgin Melon it was hard to know what I really needed to bring and which ones to get. I know we have this list (http://www.burningmelon.org/burningmelon/burning-melon-logistics/packing-list) but more details about like what types of lights are best, what goggles are good, etc. would be really helpful.
Keep stressing that you need a lot less food & outfits than you think! No matter how much I remind myself of this, I still overpack & overplan
Less is more
More information on clothing and weather forecast ;)
More lights for everyone! Extra sheets to cover items and protect from dust.
No
nope! I thought it was great
RELAX AND CALM DOWN AND DEFINITELY DON'T PANIC ABOUT ANYTHING
Start sharing information earlier. The earlier you start the conversations and hype trains, the more people will understand the size of the operation and develop stronger desire to participate.
Thank you!
Thanks for all you do.
The melon-organized events were awesome! I do wish I knew/realized we were considering additional events outside of Melon Ball so we as a camp could've maybe voted on what else to host in addition to those confirmed. I recall some emails about how we should allocate funds, but nothing specifically about guide book official things.
There are a lot of amazing packing lists out there from vetted burners. Including that as a melon vetted list separated into essentials vs. protips (e.g., a good tent pee jar), and comforts would be reassuring for new melons.
Very well organized







19. Any thoughts you'd like to share on camp's physical location, size, or layout?

All seems good to me (I've never had it any other way!)
Drop the 1/3 of camp population who wasn't around, didn't contribute, came late, etc.
Great location! Very central, but not so close to esplanade so it had a nice and chill vibe at night.
I appreciate that despite having two massive trailers, they were placed in a way that still invited people into camp. It was transparent and inclusive. I loved it.
I do not think it is appropriate for us to be near Kidsville, nor do I like it much.
I liked it! It felt like there was a 'private quarters' where we all slept, and the communal camp space, and the open space. Good blend.
I liked the added shade this year. I also found the common areas to be better organized/set-up than last year. Overall, I liked this year's layout much better than last year - I feel like it facilitated an inclusiveness at camp, particularly during dinner, that was missing last year.
I liked the layout this year better than last.
I liked the location, close to porta potties. Neighbors were nice and not to rowdy so I could sleep when I wanted to.
I liked the location. But, I think we could intergrate the non tent dwelling Melons a bit better. Circling the wagons, so to speak, could remedy this as well as providing a wind barrier for camp. The position of the trailer really broke up the space and left a good deal of unused space.
I love camp.
I love the area, honestly, though I would love to be a bit closer to grown ups than Kidsville. size is great, and I think the layout worked out well this year
I really like the layout.
I suppose it's hard to be always close to the porta-potties, but if it's possible, that would be conveniently nice!
I think we were a bit tight with the new Melon dome - may want to increase our camp size to avoid squeezing in tents, especially when the edges don't get shade. I don't think we could have reduced the front yard space much more, especially when we used it for the Melon gifting and aerial area. I think we weren't too far from Esplanade, which was nice. I also liked that we took up the entire back and front, allowing us to get quickly to places and bathrooms.
I thought the amount of melons was good, but I definitely only interacted with a core ~40. I didn't have an issue with only knowing half the camp, but if the intention is to know the whole camp, maybe there should be some activities that integrate people better? Hard to have those activities without feeling like a lame RA in college, but maybe it's worth it.
I wish we were in D ring but otherwise perfect.
I would prefer the camp be closer to esplanade
If the Montana Dome comes back, it would be nice to have that be more accessible to passers by.
It does feel weird to be across from Kidsville given the way that a lot of us choose to partake in evening funtivities.
It seemed like our street was pretty dark and quiet. I would have liked to be on a busier street, maybe closer to an intersection with other cool camps around us. Re:layout, I think it was a little strange to have the Melon Dome so close to the street when it seemed to be mostly for melons to hang out in more than people passing by. It might have been nice to have the Melon dome closer to the living room with the entrance facing into camp, instead of out of camp. There were a lot of small group seating areas and I think it would be nice to have more of a big living room.
It was all good in terms of location.
it was great!
it was great!
Just right
Kitchen, water,cleanup might be due for a review
Liked the slightly changed layout this year compared to 17.
Location near Kid’s Zone was excellent as there was less noise.
Love our location. It's both central and quiet! I will be interested to see how the layout changes next year with the new structure additions
Love, love LOVE our location. Being across from Kidville and close to the Ghetto is so ideal. 5:00-7:00 radials also make it much less daunting to get elsewhere in the city. Layout was really good for what we had. I think next year we could work to make even more frontage on the back side and insulate tents even more. We may need to go back to 200 x 200 if we're gonna do this whole Melondieval Times thing... just saying; jousting requires some space!
Loved the location (near bathrooms, but not too close) & size: our tent village was cozy, but plenty of room to hang in the common areas. Two domes was ace.
Melon Dome 2.0 needs to be front and center! Also, can we just burn the kelp forest and move on, please?
Pretty well organized
Size (people and dimensions) felt perfect. Got to know almost everyone pretty well (at least those who hung out at camp) and we utilized the space well, which also encouraged folks to get to know one another.
Size was perfect. Montona melon dome was under utilized.
Still a great spot and great layout.
The only thing I would have changed would have been that there was a bit of a divide at camp with. There was the Trudy side that had the rv’s and the Montana dome. I would try to better consolidate.
The semi trailer was a nice divider between a "front/back yard" but I feel like it was placed too far forward (toward g). The Montana dome felt a bit excluded from the camp, and I feel like the melon dome was a bit small to facilitate large group hangouts like the other dome could.
We could do a better job of creating a flow for people to pick up their bins from ChiCargo and CaliCargo. CaliCargo was behind the burn barrel and some people got confused between the two and drove through camp to get from one to the other. Maybe we can create signs for each?
While I enjoyed our corner lot better last year, this year's size & layout were fine. However, maybe next year we can venture outside of Kidsville & a little bit more into the action elsewhere.


20. Any thoughts on camp infrastructure? What should we focus on expanding next year? Is there anything you don't like?
Battery recycle Prepackage handsoap containers premix with water so that soap lasts all week Burn barrel duties seemed laissez-faire compared with the rest of the duties Confirm 2 ice runs a day before Playa arrival
Better info available for dealing with wastewater/changing barrels and where all that fun stuff is
couches?
Could have used a bit more seating. At a few of the dinners there weren't enough places for everyone to sit and eat. Perhaps the kelp forest could be expanded.
Double Melon Domes towards the end of the burn were a great 1-2 punch during those hot afternoons. More tables to sit/hang/eat at would be great, too. Seating in general can be added
helipad hahah
I feel like for a camp of ~80 people, we might be able to accomplish a bit more in terms of gifting to the community. Gifting melon pieces is lovely! Maybe we could have a melon-ade stand, or gift melon margaritas, or something along those lines.
I LOVE the hammocks!! I feel good about everything else - though maybe the communal bar should better explained/emphasized pre-playa so that it is used more - it seemed like a lot of liquor showed up in the last few days.
I'm thinking we need a swimming pool. And a casino. And melon camp has always really needed its own international airport.
In my opinion, I don't think the Montana dome was needed. Maybe I missed out on the conversations with Melons or others who got great use out of it, but I think that is an area where energy can be placed elsewhere.
It might be nice to have more playa tech seating and a bigger "living room" so that more people can lounge around together.
It would be nice to have the water closer to the kitchen. Also maybe foot-pumped shower? This would also maybe be a thing that would be nice for doing dishes or with the BFS: https://www.nemoequipment.com/product/helio-shower/
light were great this year! The timer was awesome! Love the hammocks, I want more and I want them to be in shade most of the day. Maybe a chill area and a more bumping area with music?
Lighting on both sides of camp. Having a lit entrance/marker on both streets would be super useful for navigation.
Lights at night were great! They allowed us to meet up with people throughout the night, multiple times even in one night, and some of the best nights were when we were all just chatting and laughing in groups in between adventures. Definitely wouldn't have happened if it was dark. Also felt safer. Shower looked nice. Appreciate the coverage on multiple sides vs. just curtains that move with the wind. I loved the sound and how easy it was to plug in and use it. It really made the Melon Ball fun, too. I loved the domes because they're a nice beacon to let visitors recognize our camp. It wasn't really hot enough to use them, but I loved the Montana dome as a place to sleep before leaving. I really wish I had visited the Montana dome before that last night. Also wish the Montana folks had asked for greater camp help, because I didn't know if they needed help or how we could help get it done faster. I think they could have gotten it done quicker if they had just asked. (I could have also asked them for help.) We could expand the front shade area a bit to make for more pleasant Melon gifting and Melon Ball.
Liked everything about the infrastructure
Loved the new shower system - though we got dangerously close with the grey water this year, despite having an improved collection system. Didn't love the hard shade, but we made it work. More playa tech. I know people hate building and assembling it, but we lacked adequate camping chairs, and the chill space felt more congested than in years past. Happy to lead a playa tech build day next year, with the agreement that it then becomes part of the greater collection housed in Trudy's belly.
Maybe another cleaning workflow at the kitchen, sometimes it was very dirty
Maybe one giant melon dome instead of two that the public can also use? Shade structure that protects the side walls of camp?
Maybe side panels for the seating area? Or something else to keep the dust out of the seating area during a dust storm.
Melon art car! More inflatable furniture, less playatech.
Microphone is needed for some campers. Moving the energy farm out of the center of camp. This important resource took up a lot of valuable space. On the trailer perhaps? With a rad observation deck?
More camp art. Hard shade was very appreciated and should definitely stay.
More chairs... maybe some inflatable ones?
More comfortable communal seating. Blow-up couch? More cushions for the existing benches?
More hammocks would be nice. Can we get the showers little higher so it drains into a hose into the gray water containers? A faster pump to spread extra clean water when we are breaking down camp.it would save time. Possibly a better dolly for the big water barrels to move around and to use when we need to get rid of extra water. It’s nice having extra water vs not enough water!
More hammocks. Those are bliss. & i think we could really make the Montana dome cool as hell next year. A giant melon dome?!??!? Fruity disco ball? Watermelon speakeasy? The possibilities are endless! Also, if we host another melon ball, we should move some seating towards the bar
More playatech seating would be cool! It felt like it filled up fast and there wasn't always enough room for the number of people that wanted to spend time together as a group.
More playatech, perhaps a smaller kitchen area for personal cooking.
More shade never hurts. Perhaps we could look into more new options for shade- ours collects a ton of dust and can be frustrating to unpack and pack.
Nothing that I did not like. I would have liked more optional bonding activities as ice breakers
Oh me oh my, yes. I really like the Montana dome, and support showcasing it more. It feels more grandiose and naturally cool than the OG Melon dome. I would like to explore what we can do with it! Maybe we can put one dome on each side of the aerial rig out front for a nice geometric/spherical affair? I have very meh feelings about the kelp forest. It’s not clear to me what the objective is, and I think camp art efforts might be better put toward something else. I loooooove the kitchen
Replace playa tech with inflatable furniture. It's to much easier and takes less space. Also maybe additional cushions for the domes.
See above - I really liked the lay out this year.
Simpler, better fresh water to wastewater system.
The additional dome was cool but would've been good to have set up sooner! Maybe the Melon dome and the Montana dome could be merged somehow into one heat-reflective, swamp-cooler'd melony hemisphere.
The Montana dome is sick! But I wonder if we need both..?
The Montana dome was a bit obsolete. Maybe remove it. I also am Curious to see if Trudy could have been parked differently.
the montana dome was amazing expand if possible
There seemed to be a shortage of travel chairs. I brought one but often when i tried to sit in one, they were all taken. I wonder if some people loved using those chairs but didnt contribute one themself??
We could really use a magic wand for set up and strike. I'll talk to some people.
Why the air conditioning was not working in Melon dome?


21. What about nearby camps? Did you spend any time with our neighbors? Any of them super cool? Fun? Irritating? Loud?  We may pass this on in the Black Rock City placers post-burn survey.
As much as I hate kids, I loved being next to a relatively quiet camp area. The neighbors who did the Frankenpets were awesome! Just a couple, but super nice and great neighbors! Let's camp with them again! I liked our neighbors who ran the bacon smores, but I wish I had gotten to know them more. I liked how quiet our area was.
bacon smores people were cool
Being in a quiet zone is bitter sweet. I love being able to sleep at night but you have to travel to find parties!
Cool neighbors, loved the sweets from kidsville across the street
Didn't really spend any time with the neighbors.
Floasis was very fun and friendly and at 4:30 and G
Hot dog camp was fun, I got flogged with my head in a bucket, then a shot of tequila was squirt into my mouth and I got slapped. Also good hot dogs
I enjoyed my afternoon drinking at other camps.
I like being next to kidsville!
I like our location just fine. Moving up to C or D would be very nice, but we have low interactivity so that's probably not in the cards
I loved the LED disco ball lighting the way to the bathroom :-)
I slept along H on my last night. At one point an art car went by and they were so loud I could have sworn they would run me over. Glad my tent the rest of the week was further in.
It was fun being beside the placed camp of two people who had the stuffed animal events. It would be cool to do a "block party" next year with near by camps.
It was fun to have a bunch of other fruit-based camps in the area.
Kidsville was a delight this year Our neighbors that threw the smores event were very chill Our immediate neighbors between us and Burning Sky were also excellent! (FYI: They were not keen on Burning Sky as good neighbors.)
Kidville rocks. AEZ is full of interesting, fun folks. Definitely fun being close to DPW - parade was a perk. No complaints or praise about the rest of our neighbors.
Love our neighborhood, love our area. Neighbors' generators sucked. Love love loved being next to Kidsville again.
Neighbors were great
neighbors were great! I don't have any specific feedback, but two different neighbors came by to say they enjoyed our camp and liked our melon ball!
Nice people from Australia. Wish I would of know about the sky divers earlier and that you can go up in the plane with them sometimes. Maybe we should have a neighborhood board telling who is who! Then we can be like Mr. Rogers !
No complains with the neighbors but didn't get to hang with them too much
No complaints!
Not too much interaction with neighbors, but one of them had loud deep house electronic music till very late in the morning, I could sleep but some of my friends I know couldn't sleep, maybe that could be addressed to BRC...
Nothing irritating.
Our neighbors were great! 'Art of Destruction' was super helpful, fun, and it was a helluva trip trap. Sound Therapy was tight as fuck. Those guys were incredibly kind and their percussive sound gave our camp a heartbeat. Kids Camp gave me candy every day and I want them near the melons forever. Burning Sky was cool too, but I didn't really spend much time with them.
Our neighbors who did the mutant stuffed animals were awesome! I also liked the kidsville people who did the "give candy to strangers" booth. I also liked the camp with the cookies/s'mores and bar games a little further down G toward 5:00. I appreciated the lights and music of Illuminaughty (by the portos) because it helped me find camp!
The "family camp" at G&540 was such a wholesome camp to spend time in. Some of the most genuine people I've ever met.
The camp next to us was very friendly. I am referring to the camp that had the stuffed animals, where you pick a head and a body.
The neighbors setting up a station for creating hybrid stuffed animals was a wonderful plus.
The stuffed animal folks were so friendly! I'd like to be near more adult camps though. We have a great physical space but it's a little quiet around our parts of town (which has its perks of course)
The stuffed animal people next door were awesome.
The tiny camp next to us with the mutant animal activity was great. Kidsville was an unexpected pleasure. It was pleasantly quiet most of the time.
They were cool and not loud
Unfortunately this year, I did not.
Yes. I visited several of the neighbors. I thought they were nice people. We were definitely the noisy neighbors

23. If you only showed up for part of your shift or didn't show up for your shift, what happened? Is there anything we could have done to help you work your work shift?
Wrong place, wrong time. I would have helped with the on-playa strike but had to leave on Friday.

24. How do you think the take down of camp went (strike on Saturday, Sunday and final load in on Monday)? Is there anything we could have done better? Is there anything that went wrong? Suggestions for improvements for next year?
A great improvement over last year. Can't think of any specific recommendations, beyond encouraging continued focus on efficient/effective stuctures to streamline setup & strike.
Expectations for Sunday could be better set (more than 4 hours needed), or kitchen can be shut down on Saturday, or both. Saturday is still the preferred strike day.
Felt like Saturday strike quit early and Sunday strike was forced to stay late and finish. Bins from Saturday weren’t organized and we had to repack to match the labels on them or to take from them to match Sunday labels. Poles and furniture from Saturday weren’t packed right and had to be fixed by Sunday crew.
Folks seemed pretty motivated and efficient during the Saturday strike. It was a fun work environment!
I feel like the strike situation, especially Sunday, was a bit of a let down. It took twice as much time as planned, and wasn't as much of a fun "yay let's work together!" vibe as it could have been. I am very keen to contribute to the take down of camp, but it felt like the whole day was consumed because it was an exhausting project. Perhaps it could be turned into an event that even non-strikers are tempted to stay at camp for, to hang out.
I feel like the Sunday strike crew was left in a bad spot. We spent a lot of time re-working things that should have been done on Saturday. The shade bins were packed wrong and needed to be re-packed. The piping in the bellybox was put in haphazardly and needed to be fixed before the flat pack bike rack could go in. The other flat pack gear needed to be cleaned and organized. This caused more work for the Sunday crew causing strike to go on much longer than it should have. We were not told that the shade above the tents was coming down on Saturday, this caused all the playa dust to be spread all over any and all gear stored outside peoples tents. Next year it would be helpful if strike plans were conveyed to the camp so that we can be sure to be prepared. My suggestion for the kitchen. Eat dinner early on Saturday, once dinner is complete, everyone in camp helps clean up, consolidate food, pack kitchen B, then take down the kitchen tent. Everyone uses the kitchen, so I think it would make sense that it's a team effort to take the kitchen tent down as a team. Cooking dinner early on Saturday also provides anyone on ranger duty a chance to eat before their shift. Additionally, at least one member of the XVC shift leaders was striking their tent on Sunday while the rest of strike shift was working.
I only witnessed saturday, but it was a whole ass strike
I think it went well at least on Saturday. I did hear that more help was needed on Sunday.
I think shifting more of the Sunday strike to Saturday would be beneficial - like switching to Kitchen A on Saturday, and having Saturday night dinner be a simple thing. Similarly leaving the Melon dome up until Sunday would be really nice. Without shade it became almost impossible to nap on Saturday and, had the Montana dome not existed, a lot of us would have been SOL. Alternatively...taking down shade on Sunday?
I think strike should be the same amount of time for each day, ( maybe a tad more work on Saturday) there are lots of little odds and ends that get overseen on Saturday leaving the rest of the slack to be picked up by the Sunday crew.
I think the work/people schedule was backwards. We should have more people working on Sunday or more work being done by the Saturday group
I think we should do dinner as late lunch on Saturday and try to have all of the communal kitchen pretty well packed before strike on Sunday.
I thought it went well! I enjoyed being on kitchen duty.
I was not apart of it, no comment.
I was very upset to be woken up on Saturday morning because the shade structure had been taken down. Two nights of shadeless sleep is a high percentage relative to nights spent on playa! I can’t sleep in the sun, and I heard others mentioning it too. I resorted to sleeping in the Montana dome, which seemed to be a popular choice. I understand y’all want to get it taken down in a timely manner, but perhaps something can be switched in the strike schedule? If I could complain about one thing, this is it. Though I was very happy to be responsible for it this year, I think the bike repair station should be included in general strike tasks, do-able for anyone. I am happy to author Melon tips or some other sort of instruction/enough knowledge for anyone to wing it for coming years.
I would give credit for CaliCargo truck unload :) Strike on Saturday went nicely - although it looked like people ran out of things to do, while some of us continued to clean/work. I think having a backlog list of things that need to be done would be helpful, because it sounds like Sunday was a lot of work.
I've received some feedback that Saturday strike was not super beautifully supervised, leading to errors that had to be corrected by Sunday strike. There were also apparently strike leaders attending to personal stuff during their lead shifts, which - regardless of whether it was actually happening - isn't great for melon morale.
If you are at Camp on Sunday, even if you didn't sign up, it's impossible not to help. You just need to pitch in. I was happy to...
It felt like those of us who chose to stay were punished with the responsibility of closing up camp. We should accept & acknowledge that there is work to be done Sunday night and Monday morning, limit the number of Saturday shifts, and anyone staying through Monday should have to take a later shift. We should also re-work dinner Saturday to be a simpler cook process, and break down more of the kitchen on Saturday. This was the biggest time suck on Sunday. There were huge improvements, but that only left room to notice the other areas we can adjust.
It might be nice to have the Saturday strike folks also do a MOOP sweep.
It seemed go to okay. One issue though. The shade is very fast and easy to take down, relative to, say, kitchen strike. There's no good reason to take it down from tent area two full days early. Makes it hard to sleep in the last two days, which makes the rest of strike even harder.
It seemed like a lot of work! I wonder if there would be ways to streamline it or do more of it off-playa like have a cleaning party back in Chicago after the burn that lots of melons come to (have it as a formal work shift). Lots of the things we cleaned on playa would be much quicker and easier to clean in Chicago with a pressure washer. Plus they'd get a lot cleaner cuz what seems really clean on playa still looks dusty in the default world... Also, I think it would have been nice to leave the shade up until Sunday afternoon and had everyone at camp help take it down all together so it would happen later and faster.
It was definitely an improvement, but we've still got a ways to go.
It went fast. I helped for a few hours and it was very manageable.
melons kicked ass
More balanced strike over the 3 days. Sunday was a lot and so was Monday. To many people seem to strike on Saturday when you couldn’t take to much down. Need to figure out how to get the people shipping on Trudy to arrive earlier or in time. Some of them were very nice and helped. Others just dropped and ran away . It would be nice if they all offered to help in some way.
No complaints, the whole group worked together
No suggestions, it was very well planned ;)
Not well. I was pretty disappointed that one of the appointed leaders was striking their personal tent while others worked. I offered multiple times to take on projects, only to be told “not yet” or “I think only X number of people are designated for that task”. Many of us were pretty salty about the fact that the Saturday crew was let go at 1:00, but there was an expectation that Sunday crew stay as long a necessary to strike. The leadership around strike needs to be stronger and more focused.
Perfection! Carry on
Post the template of assigned tasks in the Facebook group and email chains. I can prepare myself for strike if I know what all the tasks are.
Quick, organized, good direction, good teamwork. We were so efficient, we did a lot of Sunday's strike shift tasks as well!
Sat strike was a breeze! Felt like we could have done more but I'm not sure timing-wise how the rest would work out (like what we still needed through Sunday regardless).
Saturday strike seems easier and has more people than Sunday and Monday. Perhaps limit the number of people on Saturday and add a shift for Monday?
Shade structures over tents should be struck down Sunday and not Saturday if possivle. It was really tough sleeping from Saturday into Sunday as I was expecting that shade to be there until the end. Hottt.
Strike down went well. Everyone was fully engaged.
Strike is well organized. I was sad to see the melon dome and camp sign come down so early on Saturday's strike.
Strike on Saturday went really well in terms of speed, efficiency, and everyone working together. Felt happy to do it. Only thing was that while everything had to have come out of a labeled bin, it was hard to find some of the matching bins to pack back up. Maybe a bin master position to check bins out and back to each of the strike projects/groups?
strike on saturday went well
Strike was better this year but Sunday was left with a disproportionate amount of work. Anyone who worked Saturday and happened to be around on Sunday got guilt tripped into working both strike shifts.
STRIKE WAS FUN!! I dunno if it's because XVC made out lives so much easier this year one person available who is familiar with how this shit works would be great. But honestly I know the experts can't be everywhere at once & next year I know how to take it down too
Strike was great this year. Everyone participated and gave "whole ass" so we did more than originally planned
Strike went much better this year than last year. If there's any way to keep more shade up until Sunday next year, that would be great, but as I am completely ignorant of the logistics involved, I understand this may be impossible.
Sunday was very busy and seemed to have not enough hands. I worked the whole time with a five min break but had to leave by 2pm and there was much more work to be done.
The Saturday crew didn’t follow Michelle’s superb bin packing instructions
There is always room for improvements. Some of the pipe from Saturday strike was loaded into the truck incorrectly, so we had to unload and reload on Sunday. Also, some pipe was left outside of the truck and we had to finish taking the connectors off and load it into the truck. Shade square boxes didn't seem to be counted correctly, so they should be repacked in Chicago before next year. Sunday's strike was really long. Next year, maybe we can add a 2nd shift on Sunday and a formal shift on Monday to help with everything. We were striking on Sunday from 10am until 5:30pm. Luckily there were a few people that had already done a work shift that helped us finish everything.
There were more people than tools/ladders to take down the shade structure, so there was quite a bit of standing around. With more tools and a game plan, we could have started on opposite sides and had it down even faster.
This strike was my first. It seemed to go smoothly.
Very efficient this year (saturday doing most of the heavy lifting seemed like a good idea) - maybe have Saturday crew take the domes down as well.
Way better than last year, which in turn was better than year before. #wholeass
We had a great strike day , because every melon showed up.?‰-?Š
We struggled to find the bins for strike, we could have been done faster if we had been able to locate all necessary bins.
Work load across Saturday and Sunday strike is uneven. I think we should break down the full kitchen on Saturday. Perhaps leave more of the shade up until Sunday.









31. Tell us about your experience with people who were wearing the vests (pink and green) --were they easy to find? Helpful? Anything that should be added to Pink vest orientation? Anything else we should know?
Absolutely helpful!
All good
Been a melon before so we didn't have to go too deep. Got tour of camp this yearso that was great.
Bold observation here- I thought the non-XVC Melons that took over mid-week and later-week were stronger, seemed more eager, and covered more of the bases. I saw a lot more enthusiasm in the role with people that had not otherwise taken a leadership role in camp.
Easy to find - got a more complete orientation the next day. Felt nice knowing there was a designated someone to ask questions of and that I wouldn't be bothering anyone.
Easy to find, and helpful!
Easy to find, helpful, and I think everything was covered except maybe the cold brew.
Easy to find, yes. Helpful in getting oriented. Really nice concept!
Easy to find! Just needed to be a little more prepared/organized. Perhaps each Vest shift person should have a clipboard with all necessary information to cover, locations of pertinent areas in the camp etc that both the Vester & Vestee sign off on at the completion of orientation? Might be a little bureaucratic but something along those lines might ensure better/complete orienting.
Especially later in the week, vest volunteers tended to lounge around in a haze.
Every time I had a question a green vest would point me in the right direction.
Everything was fine, people and info were easy to find
Extremely helpful. It was so nice to have a point person to go to and not bug a member of XVC with questions.
Friendly and informative.
generally helpful
good good good
good system, always easy to find
Great system!
Green vests seemed to work well to distribute the work load. I didn't consult the pink vests much but it wasn't my first rodeo.
Happy to help & very welcoming but not the most thorough
helpful
Helpful and easy to find. Loved Joe's line about if you have a question, before you ask Drew/Michelle/XVC, find someone with a similar question and figure it out together.
I appreciate them helping answer my questions
I arrived before vest shifts started.
I arrived early, but I didn't seek out the pink vest because I knew what needed to be done.
I arrived just before people left to go out (12:30ish AM). I met a pink vest and it was great, but had he gone out, I would have been confused. A "Welcome to Camp!" sign or sketch on the white board that gives tips on what to do if you show up and people aren't there. I know there is usually ALWAYS someone at camp, but if you show up and they left to eat, pee, or sleep, a quick intro would be helpful. It's just something I heard mentioned a few times.
I did not interact
I didn’t realize vest people were a thing before coming to camp. Not sure if I missed an email...I don’t know what checklist the best people had.
I don't actually think there was a vest on when I arrived and/or I didn't seek them out. ALL of the vests were lovely people. I heard rumor Wed's 3-8pm green vest was very handsome and charming, too.
I honestly don't recall what color vests Drew, Michelle and Brandon were wearing when we arrived. It was pretty late.
I really didn't have much interaction with vests
I really enjoyed being a vest :) I like being the original friendly helpful person that people meet when they first get to camp. I did this year see a number of people napping on their pink and green vest shifts which is a little discouraging because during my shift I tried to help out wherever I could, but of course taking breaks for sitting down and eating are very necessary
I think making sure we go thru the entire list of information for everyone would be helpful. Also providing instructions and best practices for picking a tent site, setting up shade, and setting up a tent using tent nails would be helpful in getting people up and running ASAP.
I think the system was great! I didn't use it much, but I thought it was helpful to have someone deputized to answer questions.
I wore a pink vest this year and I hope I did a good job ;)
It is nice to have someone to turn to with questions.
It was very helpful
Little experience
Love the system!!
Love the vests!
Manny did a great job. Went through the checklist and thoroughly oriented me.
My orientation was very casual and at the end of the pink vest's shift, but I think it covered everything! At one point some new melons arrived and I couldn't find a vest so I orientated them myself and told them to keep an eye out for the vests, otherwise vests were easy to find.
no comments on this.
no feedback
None of the vests talked to me.
overall good experience, but I had to change the black barrel wastewater once and they didnt know the protocol, went elsewhere for help
Overall, I think the vests worked really well this year. There were a few times where I couldn't find a vest, but after a little searching I found them. It seemed that a lot of people arrived between 6pm and 9pm. I wonder if we could extend the pink vest shift or adjust the shifts to cover that time? I think it is hardest when people arrive in the dark and don't know what to do. Maybe we could print the camp map and put it in the info board so it is easier to know where to put your tent if no one is around?
Pretty helpful
So nice to have someone to help deal with random little things. Maybe add something about smoking to orientation. Let people know to use ash trays and not burn down camp.
Some were nice, eine a little bit bossy
Super helpful, and super easy to find. A great orientation that cut to the chase and didn't waste time. Much better this year than last year!
The orientation was so informal that I didn’t realize it was an orientation, so I still had questions later.
They did a great job
They seemed to do a good job. The real metric is how Michelle and Drew feel about the peace and quiet they got when the green/pink vests were handling things.
They were easy to find and the rest of camp was also very generous with the help they offered in getting us set up I did not get a walkthrough on water change until I sought it out for myself
They were great.
They were helpful.
They were nice but having the board set up in the middle of camp really helped.
Very helpful! The pink vest orientation covered most things I ended up needing as a first time melon, and the green vest usually was able to give information immediately or help me find the desired information in the appropriate place in the binder.
Vest shifters were pretty easy to locate whenever I needed them; I didn't receive orientation, but didn't really need one.
Vest-wearers were findable when I needed them. Often they (we!) didn't know the answers to questions but could help in finding answers…
Vests were available when I needed them, great program
Yay, good!
Yes


33. Tell us about your experience wearing a vest--what did you do?  Would you do it again?  Suggestions for someone who might do it next year?  What should be added to the binder?
Add a retractable retractable sharpie to each vest
I answered a few questions and learned about some specific tasks I hadn't done before. Delegated some things, helped with others (but stayed visible and available). Was just as enriching for me as I hope the people I helped! Definitely do it again next year
I didn't have a clue about the ChiCargo/CaliCargo process. I was not able to answer basic questions from people attempting to pick up their boxes. Proper information may have been in the binder but a pre playa clue of how that system works would be helpful.
i didn’t always know what to do, but people i asked did. some additional info, or access to the full binder in advance might have helped.
I fielded questions and got people to help with camp projects. Noting the lock box code somewhere in the binder would be helpful. Vests are super hot - perhaps a nylon mesh situation :)
I like the attached vest. But maybe more explanation on some of the cost responsibilities. Some of them I knew nothing about and hadn’t been oriented on them at my first/previous year of camp.
I probably won't do green vest again; I much prefer the pink vest responsibilities. Being fresh for the shift probably would've helped a lot, and I didn't take great care of myself the few days prior.
I tried to engage the people at camp to interact and meet each other. Got to orient a couple of folks, went great, would do it again
I would definitely do it again, though the day dragged on. I was exhausted by the end of my shift, and felt really tied to camp all day in a negative way. I would consider shortening to 3x 3hr. shifts instead of 2x 5hr. shifts. I would do two in a week if that was the case. Also, I was not oriented into the position. It was pretty easy based on the checklists provided, but I feel more guidance and structure would be helpful for the individuals so they can be most helpful instead of just being a middle man to Drew & Michelle
I would do it again The binder was helpful, but getting a walkthrough before starting my shift would have been really helpful. It's tough to retain reading information for a one time use.
It was fun, though I ended up having vest, dinner & works shifts on consecutive days, so it was a big chunk of time to give to camp — would space it out more next time. I enjoyed taking on a bit of responsibility in camp, and definitely felt more connected to the operation because of it. I did feel like I tended not to have the answers to questions people were asking, just because of the sheer variety of things people came to me for. I'm not sure if there's any solution to that — you just do the shifts and learn stuff over time (aka fake it 'til you make it).
It was pretty chill. Melons were pretty willing to help out when asked. The shift seemed very long though.
It was pretty quiet during my shift. I'd definitely do it again!
Mostly just hanging out at camp. There were no new arrivals during my shift, so I just had to deal with a few random things. I'd do it again.
My vest shift was hard. We had a crazy dust storm during it and we had to make sure everything was tied down so it wouldn't fly away. Camp was also still being built so there were a lot of things to do. It was great, but I was very tired afterwards. I liked the table of contents in the binder this year. I wish the front cover of the binder could wrap around so it didn't take up so much space when trying to look up info.
Yes, I would do it again. Binder was amazing.


34. Why did you choose not to sign up for a shift?
Chose to apply myself elsewhere this year and let other people step up. Also, still acted as "responsible person in camp" when the green vest was missing or fell short.
Did not hear that I could. I probably did not listen close enough to the dinner announcements or read my emails thoroughly.
Didn't feel too comfortable as second-timer as I thought I still don't know much about camp and the people. Next year I don't have an excuse I assume.
I had a zillion other things, and none of the remaining shifts fit in my schedule
I haven't been a Melon in a couple of years, so I don't think I was a good person to help answer questions with all the new wonderful changes/additions to the camp.
I knew I'd help out around camp in other capacities
I volunteered as a kitchen captain and felt like that was enough on my plate.
I was only at camp for a few days and was just getting off a stressful time in my real life - did not think I could do a good job!
Most of the shifts were taken when I decided to register so I focused on other things
Overcommitted already


35. Any other suggestions/solutions relating to in-camp project sign ups, work shift requirements, etc.?
All campers should be required to either set up camp or break it down.
As a virgin, it took some time to figure it all out (and by "it", I mean that thing in the desert!). I would have been happy to have some work shifts suggested to me ahead of time. As it was, I wasn't really sure what my role at camp was supposed to be. I would have liked to contribute more!
Be nice to have a list printed of who’s bike was who so when breaking down we can avoid confusion on bikes left unattended. Some people were just sleeping so we did not know whose bike we should leave alone.
Bigger white boards.
I appreciate the melons' gift of helping sparkle ponies on their first burn but I cannot believe it is worth the constant stress of making them understand how much work is involved before, during and after the burn.
I think things like green and pink vest shifts might be good to put out even earlier. stuff that's virgin-friendly I think is fine to keep timed as-is. Strike shifts definitely could've had better communication. I think getting this finalized earlier and giving people some advanced notice of what their responsibilities might look like would be helpful for productivity, efficiency, and melon satisfaction.
I would stress that going thru the checklist for orientation is important to everyone being informed. I would also maybe create a separate board for projects that need to be completed. Also would maybe sign-up Melon gifting pre-Playa so we aren't stressed in finding enough melon cutters and melon gifters.
Maybe a bigger sign that includes all work shifts on the info board?
More project awareness earlier!
NA
No other suggestions!
Nope
Nope
Nope! All have been covered.
Nothing I can think of!
One thing that struck me during the strike shifts: I found that I really enjoyed working on stuff in camp with other melons. Most of the time we're all running around the city doing our various things and never get to have an integrated camp experience (besides dinner). During strike we got to do that: work together for our own [the camp's] benefit. Makes it feel like not just a mandatory work shift!
Sign up earlier, get people involved earlier, make it feel like they're responsibility too.
Some folks are just a bit half assed.
The workload for my dinner crew was really light. Might consider letting people sign up for melon gifting, labor supporting other events, or big camp projects instead of dinner shifts.


36. The Melons tried the participatory budgeting process again this year, how do you think the process went? Do you have any thoughts on submitting proposals, voting on proposals and being awarded money? Do you have any suggestions for improving on the process, timing, etc.?
A better effort to let us know who received budget for what and where can find it on playa would be awesome! (Hope I just didn't miss this in an email)
Don’t know enough about it.
Good initiative think we should simplify the voting process with voting on FB or something more visible for smaller decisions.
I didn't join til after that was complete! I'm sure it was great, though
I didn't participate in process, so no thoughts. Now that I've been to burning man I have a better idea of what I can contribute and whether I want to apply for a budget!
I didn't participate, sorry.
I didn't really pay attention to this process.
I don't feel that there is as much transparency in the budgeting as there should be.
I don’t know much about this.
I thought the process was very easy to understand. We budgeted a lot of cool stuff to hand out and build.
I wish we had asked for more money.
I would like to see more info, earlier, pertaining to art grants.
Ice envelopes were great. Participatory Budgeting was fine. Would like to know was it fair and equal for everyone, I hope it was.
It went well! I got some much-needed money to help get XXXXXXX. Ideally would be a week or two earlier, with a week or two more time to make a proposal.
N/A
N/A
No
No suggestions, no problems
This process seemed fine to me.
Thought it went smoothly; would like to start it earlier next year.
We need more melons (including myself) to participate. Some discussion in the facebook group before submitting proposals might get people interested.
Worked great! I'm submitting next year :)
Yes, it was great. Let's do it a few weeks earlier and let's vote next year.









44. How did the experience being a dinner captain go? Any surprises you weren't prepared for? Do you have any suggestions for improvements on any part of the process (pre-playa planning or on-playa organizing)?
2 ice runs a day changed up the work flow, but we had so much time Getting no advance notice on team, requirements, shopping list before the team made me feel like I was behind the 8-ball early Got mixed messaging on necessary water levels for dish washing station
Doing dinner later in the week is hard to get full team participation - not everyone attended my mandatory meetings and not everyone was reliable during their assigned shifts. It was also hard to do a dinner while melon ball was happening and resources were being used - same for comingling of washing duties. We also were washing hours after dinner, which was a bummer since we missed a burn.
I think it went very well! I like cooking, being in the kitchen, leading a team. I had read about ice before I arrived, but when I read the on-playa literature on ice management I found it overwhelming and confusing. I asked Ashley and she said that that information was out of date and to just do whatever is necessary to keep it at or below 40ºF. There was money in the box for more than one ice run, but the sheet only mentioned one. All of this was absolutely fine after I talked to Ashley and she gave me the simple version. I am glad we had extra spices, because the recipe did not contain nearly enough. We probably used at least 5x what was in the recipe. Had a great team :)
It wasn't clear to me initially that there were supposed to be 2 ice runs each day. Folks pre-signed up to volunteer for a morning ice run, but would have been helpful to pre-recruit an additional 2-3 volunteers to do an afternoon ice run as well. This could just be updated on the Ice run PDF that was sent out.
My melon team struggled to voluntarily purchase our cold dinner items. Nobody volunteered for the cold stuff so the responsibility got dumped on the captain.
We finished more quickly than expected. There was also a miscommunication about whether we were serving dinner earlier than normal.


45. How did you feel the Melon dinner experience went this year? What worked? What didn't work?
- Chopsticks was a brilliant idea - Less bean dip - In general, fewer dishes in larger quantities make it easier to cook in appropriate amounts for the crowd. 5 lbs each of two dishes is not equivalent to 10 lbs of one dish, because people will take some each, guaranteeing the depletion of something before the end of the line. - It always irritates me how much attention vegans get for what really amounts to a strong preference. Gluten intolerance, nut allergies… those are real "restrictions". I have my strong preferences too — all organic everything, grass-fed dairy/meats, pastured eggs, naturally-fermented heirloom-grain sourdough breads — and I'm also standing on firm moral ground, but it sure is easier for everyone if we're all a little less picky on playa! (I doubt anyone actually wants to wade into this morass, but I might as well put it out there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
A little overboard with dietary restrictions. My group made scrambled eggs with milk and without. Any chef will tell you best scrambled eggs have no milk. I'm sure the hard liner lactophiles can deal with no milk in their eggs for one meal. Also seemed silly making regular bacon AND Turkey bacon, although I know people take their bacon seriously at camp. I think the carnivores could deal with one meal of non porcine breakfast meat. I've also recently discovered veal bacon which is a dead ringer for pork bacon, but I can see the v word not going over well.
All in all dinners were pretty fantastic. Well done to the dinner captains.
Announcements at this time worked well.
Cooking for 80 people is VERY difficult. Menus should be scrutinized for that.
Dinners were great. Thanks for the chopsticks. Fuck washing shit!
Division of work went well in my dinner! I would like to point out that during the pre-BM survey, I wrote that I'm celiac (have gluten intolerance), and this hasn't been taken into consideration in any of the dinners. I could obviously choose some food from what I saw at the dinner table, but there weren't any signs on the potential presence of gluten ingredients, and specifically, during the Friday dinner (Mac+Cheese) I couldn't eat anything (because I couldn't eat pasta that has gluten)...
Everything great!
Everything worked
Food tasted great. Efficient flow of the dinner line.
Great experience, perhaps started preparing too early for our dinner, we had tons of time (started at 3 PM)
I forgot where I put my communal food. Maybe we can remind people to write the day of their dinner on it and have a place to put it in the kitchen? I love communal dinners! We can still work on the dish washing station. It got pretty nasty and people didn't really know what to do.
I liked it! It was nice to have one cooked meal a day.
I liked it. Made more enjoyable by knowledgeable and active captain (go smokin joe!)
I love our dinners!
I personally don't like breakfast for dinner so much - but it works ;)
I think all the dinners were delicious! I felt bad for some of the groups, which had to meet in the morning to prep vs. teams that could just meet in the afternoon. I wish we had planned dinner earlier and set earlier deadlines vs. rushing right before we all left for the playa. I would also maybe set aside laminated placards for food-restrictions (e.g., Vegan, Vegetarian, Dairy, etc.)
I think dinner is one of the things we do best. I don’t really have any complaints. I love sharing with non-Melons, but I think that perhaps we should have them get in line for food after Melons. We had a lot of leftover cooked food, but I loved having it around.
I think most dinners went off really well. Even ours, which started a bit touch-and-go was amazing. Breakfast for dinner, while delicious, was by far the most wasteful; i think it could be minimized and still be great. Maybe omit the oatmeal portion next year (or at least reduce it). Nobody likes leftover oatmeal, and I doubt anyone's SO enthusiastic about it that they'll be bummed about not getting it at dinner. Red bean soup, while delicious, was in dire excess. We were trying to finish that stuff for DAYS, and I eventually threw away the very last bit post-event after mixing as much as i could stomach into my leftover oatmeal. LESS FUCKING COLESLAW. I'd rather a few people go w/o sides than have that ungodly amount of cabbage leftover.
I think that it was wonderful, but I think maybe the quantities on the main dishes were underestimated since it wasn’t so hot out and appetites might have been higher. I think also some non melons crashed our dinners, which may have effected the quantities.
I think we should give more thought to the friday dinner shift that coincides w melon ball
I thought it worked well! Our morning meeting was very poorly attended, so I felt i didn't know many members of the team, but we pulled off dinner well.
I was disappointed by a few of my team members idea of participation. Salad estimate was off. I haven't had time to fully reflect on the dinner process but I will have more for you soon.
It was amazing! Best of any camp I've ever been to or seen.
It was good - can we figure out composting next year?
it was great my dinner captain ran a tight shift
It was great, everything was well planned.
It was really great.
Knowing what we had access to in the kitchen ahead of time could be helpful (e.g., number of pots and pans) since we have high volume cooking. No major hitches otherwise.
Lacking protein. Meat sources ran out before the line ended.
Leftovers were great to have available for lunch or snacks.
Loved the shared meals!
XXXX team was smooth and efficient, everyone pulled their weight and then some! Much thanks to awesome dinner captain XXX for keeping us on track, too
My dinner captain was fun and communicating with all the cooks. The clean up could have been better. It was difficult to clean dishes and we emptied the bleach when we should’ve.
NA
No complaints at all! Everything went smoothly & efficiently & our dinner captain was great, organized & always available for help & guidance
Our dinner captain was awesome! But we were told the day prior that dinner would be early, so we planned accordingly. Day of, that plan changed leaving us frustrated and like we wasted time.
Overall a great year. The Chinese Feast was the star meal, IMO. Hoping to get some new recipes in the mix for next year. Felt Mac N Cheese night was really heavy. Also, no more soups and no more bean dips.
Overall, I had a wonderful time with my dinner team. I thought everyone worked really well together. My only constructive comment - there seemed to be a TON of food left over from my dinner shift, and I highly doubt it was all eaten before the end of Burning Man. I would vote to simplify dinners, to the extent possible.
Perfect! Dinners were filling and had good nutrition to keep going! Also, there were usually enough leftovers to do breakfast or lunch, so I only needed to worry about half of my own food intake for the day.
Pre-playa communication about non-dinner goods. The communal cooler, ice, and good meal planning/storage tips.
Preparation of dinner went very well on my team. All the dinners I had I absolutely loved.
Some of the stuff needed to cook was being used during meal prep. We should clear the area for the dinner team and that everything is needed is available.
Such ease. We had some issues with converting units at first but it all got sorted out ;)
The kitchen facility is stretched to feed so many people at one time.
The quality has gotten better. Combining ice and dinner is a solid move. Dinner quantities seemed about right and I appreciated the leftovers that were available.
Very smooth Had a great group of people that made life easy Seemed like dinner captains were on the ball about veggies and vegan options + notifying camp when those resources were in shorter supply than meat options
was great
Was very good, but if you were working on a project or strike other people had seconds before some had 1 st course. Probably just needs to be mentioned as camp rules and fairness.
Worked great. We made a bit too much red bean soup that didn't get eaten, but that can be tweaked in future menus.
Worked very well. Having each dinner be dependent on the key person DINNER CAPTAIN means there's a chance they'll screw up and it'll go poorly, but that's for the dinner crew to complain about, as long as the food gets made.




47. Did you feel communal food (cooler and dry goods) and communal drinks were effectively managed? Why or why not?
communal food works great! I love waking up and making leftovers for people. I love the addition of The Rock!
cooler labels were great. but not every cooler was labeled from the start so that was confusing.
Didn’t use either much. Shared ~20 cans on Sunday/Monday but after that decided to keep my drinks in my own cooler since the communal cooler never had anything I wanted.
drinks cooler was great this year. It was always stocked with beer and ice. Maybe encourage more folks to bring mixers/soft drinks to share? The leftovers cooler was also pretty well organized and never seemed to get out of hand.
eh. Didn't go through orientation. But i could have asked. It was never important enough to figure out.
I didn't have any problems with the coolers, though I didn't use them very much. I ought to bring some drinks next time tho!
I didn't realize until late in the week that the communal food was communal - had been hesitant to break into snacks earlier. (d'oh)
I didn't rely much on communal food but I knew where it was and I feel it was managed well
I didn't totally understand what I could and couldn't eat in the coolers (besides leftovers), and whether I could add anything to the coolers of my own
I do!
I think a big distinction for communal food is: ready to eat or not. If there was a chalkboard listing food that has already been prepared (i.e. leftovers) people would be more likely to eat it up.
I think they were managed better this year than most. That said, there were a few things in the drink cooler that should've been in the kitchen communal cooler, and vice versa. our bagging and organizational system seemed to work really well; I don't recall any catastrophic food leaks as in years past. I'd like to see slightly better organization of the communal dry goods; a bunch of dinner teams put their stuff in the communal space, and that caused some confusion. We need to have a system for dinner dry goods (maybe just a small bin below the counter for each night? Or just say that the person who brought the dry good hangs onto it until it's time to use it?) so they don't get mixed in with communal dry goods.
I thought both the coolers and the dry goods were a definite improvement since the last time I was there.
I wish the paper spreadsheets were more clear about which coolers were for what day vs. communal. (Some of them fell off throughout the week.
Ice based coolers are a bit of a stretch for 80 people
It seemed like lots of items were shoved in and too many items packed together where items went missing or just went bad without people throwing out there old items.
More/clearer signage would be nice, to know exactly what we were welcome to consume.
No. Needs better labeling, and more than one person managing the process in case that person happens to be asleep in a hammock........... Each cooler should be individually labeled, with a list of items that should be put in it. Additionally, there should not be a communal cooler for "shared food" just a leftover cooler. If we do shared food coolers, we should have a label where people can write their name and contribution so they are responsible for it. Dry foods need better labeling, so that dinner dry goods (which should be kept in your tent until your dinner night anyways) don't get mix up with communal dry goods. Also, more communication to campers about sharing communal food EARLY in the week.
Perhaps more labeling of communal vs dinner coolers would help. signage?
Pre-playa communication, signage, and enforcement could be improved.
Pretty effective.
Pretty good. I was. It always sure what was communal during the day for breakfast or lunch. Dinner was great!
Seemed to always be stocked (wow!) so I think this worked well. This was such a wonderful concept and incentivized socialization in our common area. And an easy way for people to know what and how to gift to camp.
Sure
sure
The communal drinks were perfect, but it was not always clear how leftovers in the coolers were handled.
There should be signs in the coolers to state if the food stored there was communal or private, I got confused several times to try to find some leftovers, for example, on the Friday night that I couldn't eat the dinner...
They were fine
Yeah, loved the cooler schedule chart. What was in the mystery "do not open" cooler!?
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
yes
Yes
yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
yes
Yes
Yes
Yes -- everything was clearly labeled.
Yes but, to be fair, I didn't drink that much from the communal cooler.
Yes, addition of ice scoop was great. It would be really cool if calicargo (or anyone with a little extra space) would buy and transport communal drinks for those who are taking the bus.
Yes, bc of community effort to maintain
Yes, but I felt guilty taking leftovers/seconds
Yes, I did. There was always cold beer in the communal fridge and tons of food to snack on.
Yes, I didn't have any issues with communal food/drinks.
Yes, lived all the ramen
Yes, seemed just dandy
yes, there were always things there if i wanted them
Yes, very happy with clean drinking ice set up this year.
Yes, we just need more cider
Yes! Though it seemed to take a lot of time and energy.
yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes. Communal drinks were always stocked and iced.
Yes. I did need some guidance at first on how to read the schedule but once I got that I was good to go.
Yes. Ice cold beer up until my last minute. Beverage situation was a 10 out of 10. Always ice in cooler.
yes. more ice in the communal drinks cooler!


49. What did you feel worked in the kitchen this year? What didn't?
A member of cleanup shift dismissed other cleanup crew that offered to keep helping clean and we were left to washing a ton of pots and pans with only 2 people. It didnt feel like teamwork and took a lot longer with less hands on deck.
All kitchen supplies were well laid out. Ventilation in the kitchen during the day was a bit rough (understandably). Some sort of creative cross-airflow solution might help this a bit.
combining ice and dinner worked. It would be nice to find a way to make it clearer what dishes/utensils belonged where. Perhaps color code them somehow? Or put photos on the outside of the bins where the items are stored. Also, figuring out a better system for setting the dishes out to dry would be nice.
Didn't work well the dishwashing station
Dinners were magical. That daily structure was my favorite part of the Melon camp. The labelling of coolers and shelves and bins. Tough to navigate.
During our kitchen shift it was sometimes a bit crowded with Melons who were snacking and kinda in the way. I had to get over the gross factor of prewashing in the "sludge container" but was less apprehensive knowing there was bleach in the other container(s).
Everything seemed pretty smooth. Dish washing station was unpleasant and difficult with big pots, but I don't know that there's a better system...
Everything seemed to work just fine! I didn't notice anything egregious.
Everything worked well for me
Having a closed kitchen rocked
I felt it was more organized and tidy
I like the kitchen. Less cluttered this year, less crap this year. I hope we work further towards minimalism.
I liked how the tool board was reduced to just the key items vs. being a full array of all the tools. Improvement-wise, I think making sure the coolers don't leak water from their spigots would be key.
I think the kitchen worked very smoothly. Peanut or safflower oil would be good to have. I had to blacken some corn and ended up burning the bottom of a pan. dull knives are annoying.
I think we ran out of salt, so we should get more next year. More medium sized bowls (between the XL and medium size we have now). The XL bowls were too heavy to carry when loaded up with watermelons. Redo the kitchen hanging signs so all the utensils are color coded/labeled. Maybe we can try a new kitchen setup next year? Towards the end of the week, someone moved 2 tables into the middle of the tent and that seemed to work.
I thought the kitchen layout was better this year and contributed to a more inclusive, collegial environment. My only constructive note would be to try to simplify dinner a bit more, to the extent possible.
I will bring dish gloves in the future for clean up day. Sometimes kitchen soap/ cleaners make my hands peel, so I didn’t volunteer to kitchen clean up.
If memory serves, prior years have included 3 sets of dual-burner stoves. I'm not sure why there were two this year, but I do miss the three set-up. Especially on dinner crew or when breakfast got busy.
images on the board for utensils. Instructions for cleaning stations.
kitchen still up on sunday was extra work for Sunday strike
Labeling of spray bottles was a bit unclear, as was bleach content. Could have been clearer.
Leftovers cooler was very nice this year.
More air flow!
More organized breakfast rules. Dinner worked great!
More snacks and melon diversity.
Our dinner team could've used some more burners on the stove. The supplementary stove was good for individual cooking but insufficient for large-scale cooking.
seemed like there was lots of leftover food toward the end. seemed like potential for waste, thought maybe not a problem if it got eaten or donated.
The basic layout was good but I think a dedicated cleanup station would be better.
The cold brew was AWESOME. Loved it. All the meals were great and I really liked having leftovers that I could snack on.
The grill was great - the hanging rack (as in years past) was also great. Snack section could use some shelfing.
The kitchen was very well organized.
The kitchen worked quite well I thought. The drying space would've benefited from a little more surface area.
The oven and the stove tops on top were underpowered. Probably would be better off with two additional burners. Otherwise it was a great setup!
The utensil board was great this year. Seemed simpler than years past. Everything was there with out having overkill.
Tricky to find some supplies. That’s it.
We need to sharpen the knifes a little
Worked: tables, utensils, stoves. Didn’t: cleaning station(bigger/ deeper wash basins).
Would've like another burner, and a second area in the kitchen for personal cooking so that the dinner team could have their space and work in peace.


50. What did you expect to find in the kitchen that wasn't there?
A dishwasher :P
A quickwash station got cutlery-only.
Airflow
blender
Butter
Everything I needed I was able to find
Garlic powder
Higher temperature cooking oil.
hot sauce
hot sauce
I think we ran low on paper goods and hand soap at the end of the week.
marshmallows
More hot sauce variety
My vine cooks.
n/a
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A
NA
NA
nothing
nothing
Nothing
Nothing
One of those cat clocks where the eyes and tail tick-tock back and forth
Rats
Salt
Seeing rack for clean dishes
tablespoon and teaspoon measures
There was no raw bar this year, wtf? Also no carving station? Are we animals? People like prime rib!


51. What was the best thing you ate on the playa this year?
a godly breakfast sandwich - don't remember name of camp
A sausage grilled on the ashes
All the bacon
Bacon
Bacon & taco night
Bites of hot pancake in the deep playa
Breakfast for dinner.
Bryan's Chinese feast or Umer's Thai food
Bryan's team's dinner was a tiny smidge better than Umer's team's Thai dinner...
Cabbage with mustard seeds
Chinese feast!
Chinese meal
Curry
curry (?) - Umer's meal. Also loved Jambalaya and Chinese!
Curry night!
curry was yum. and so was the Chinese night. That black bean dessert was a fail though.
English Muffins from Sunrise Diner
Fresh fruit
fried rice!!!!
Gifted vegetarian pizza in deep playa
GREEN CURRY!
Grilled cheese sandwich under the Rainbow at 7 am!
Grilled pb&j
Hot dog at trash fence sunrise (didn't plan for an all-nighter til too late)
Ice cream made by Liquid Nitrogen
Jambalaya yuuum
mac 'n cheese & Indian Feast were my favorite dinners; that said... a friend made me pie on playa - that was pretty killer
Mac & cheese
Magic Playa S'more
Melon Dinners
Our dinners!
Quesadillas
Sausage fed to me on Sunday in camp
Sausage Party' hosted by 'The Pussywagon' in deep playa
So much bacon
TACO NIGHTTTTT
Tetris made breakfast after a wedding
Thai Chiken meal
Thai dinner
Thai dinner!!!!
Thai food!
thai green curry
Thai night!
Thaiiiiiiiiiiiiii
That grass fed beef dinner night.
That Thai curry dinner was pretty great!
the bacon from a bloody mary, or umers curry
The korean dinner
The thai curry
the thai dinner - that green curry was YUM!!
The Vietnamese dinner was great
Thursday dinner.
Umer’s thai food
umers thai dinner
watermelon margarita slushy that I made by hand cranking and running on a human-sized hamster wheel


52. Any other suggestions/solutions relating to food, coffee, kitchen, dinners, dishwashing station, pantry, coolers, bar, etc.? Dinner ideas or recipes for next year?
As I commented before, there should be signs in the coolers to state if the food stored there was communal or private, I got confused several times! I would suggest changing the Mac+Cheese to a more inclusive recipe, including people with celiac disease (like me)
Better orientation on dishwashing! A lot of people didn't know to spray off soapy water into the first bin in order to preserve the second two bins.
BLESS THE COLD BREW STATION.
Buy water in bulk and setup a water system that delivers clean water to the cooking area and a separate line to the wash station that is built on top of a black water tank.
Can't think of any!
Champagne fountain
Dishwashing station got pretty gross but maybe some didn't know how to empty/change it out? And dinner idea - BBQ!!!!
Ensure that all dietary needs are both accommodated and clearly marked. One dinner, the captain wasn’t able to answer if the meal met my dietary needs or not. So I didn’t eat.
I enjoyed the rice-based dishes a lot. I felt like it was probably also easier prep to just make a few things (i.e., rice, veggies, tofu, meat) and then let people create their own meals. Perhaps more of that?
I'm glad we were able to bring another handwashing Station. Dishwashing station needed more rules and consistency.
I've got a few but I'll share them elsewhere!
Ice water drainage should have a pre-playa plan
It might be nice to include dessert in Melon dinners, but I say this as definitely a person who cares a lot about food
Maybe a hotdog and hamburger day?
More potatoes.
More vegetables!
Need a better dishwashing station. Perhaps worth investing in an actual metal sink unit. Want to do a Greek Food night, and an Italian night, maybe a BBQ night. I'll make it happen :)
Need to revisit Saturday communal meal to better fit with Strike.
Nix the pancakes. Though breakfast for dinner is usually a crowd pleaser. I didn't see how they were cooked but a large griddle would be best, I just don't know if the one dinner justifies the cost.
No
Overall, great job of being organized.
Pre make some easy dinner or left overs for the last day crews. Kitchen gets broken down earlier that way. Keep liquor for last 2 nights, especially after the Temple burn. It was really great to hang out at camp and talk as a group.
Recipe idea: American Picnic/BBQ - burgers (veggie, too), hot dogs, potato salad, mac salad & the like
Replace mac and cheese night.
The chart on the coolers was not design for lower intellecual comprehension. Although our camp was highly intellectual, some things are better if designed so that a 10 year old could figure it out quickly, e.g. which cooler had the extra public food in it
The cold brew and Gatorade were so helpful and great. We had basically all of the important essentials and comforts.
The fresh vegetable dishes were all incredibly good. Grass-fed beef is the only beef I eat, so having it available was a very pleasant surprise.
The handwashing stations were amazing! So nice to have clean hands. I think the pancakes were undercooked, or breakfast for dinner would have been amazing. If I were to lead a dinner, I would try to look into make-ahead options that could be frozen and reheated so that dinner could take 1.5-2 hours to make instead of 4. Cooking with the crew was still fun though, so the time commitment wasn’t a big deal. -️
Trash setup: We need to improve messaging for what goes where. People are colossally dumb about trash sorting. I did a lot of burn barrel work, and found I always had plenty of stuff to pull out of the fire. It's to overcome our default-world waste-management training of "just throw it the bin and let someone else deal with it", but it's so crucial in BRC (proper porta-potty use is similarly difficult for some people, for the same reason)
vegetable like broccoli for the mac&cheese
Was not impressed with breakfast for dinner. Carbs didn't hold up well. Hardly anyone ate oatmeal, again. We were left with a pile of the same breakfast ingredients as last year. A savory oatmeal (basically risotto using oats) would go over very well.
We had 2 extra coffee bags this year, let's reduce coffee we bring by 1 full bag. The dinners were excellent! We did seem to run out of some food before everyone got enough. Maybe increase the proteins and veggies a little? Loved the Chinese meal and the cucumber salad during the Thai dinner. It was so refreshing at the end of the week to have cold cucumbers. Eh I usually love breakfast for dinner, but it seemed to take a lot of time to prep and it didn't keep me full all night. If we keep it, we should lose the oatmeal and replace it with something else (grits?). I think last year the breakfast for dinner crew also brought fresh fruit, which would have been a nice addition. And more veggies!
We should strive for more simplicity. I felt this year was a great improvement.
You can get small tetrapaks of milk that stay fresh without refrigeration. I don't take my coffee with milk personally but I bet they would be appreciated if we can take the extra non-burnable trash. Also, maybe some Kirkland-brand protein bars for the communal section? I feel like I was great on veggies but it's hard to incorporate protein for lunch.


54. Did you learn anything about any of the Ten Principles this year or something about yourself because of the Ten Principles?
A lot, I made them a focus of my day to life. I really enjoyed he principal of immediacy and was challenged with the principals of selfrilliance and inclusion.
Decommodification is a concept I learned and practiced on playa and have carried into the default world.
for sure
I can pitch a tent!
I felt at peace and comfortable with everyone, I need to disconnect from electronics more often. It was a wonderful feeling and allowed me to be in the moment at Burning Man!Awesome experience, thank you!?Ž?‰
I got a nice dose of participation via vest, dinner & strike shifts, and I found it to be pretty enjoyable!
I learned that I can do more with less. The camp offered SO much (which is great), but it was easy to fall back on.
I learned that there are some areas that I need to push myself more, participation and live in the present
I made an effort to participate more and get to know more people at camp this year, and I felt much more rewarded as a result.
I think I do every year. Hard to put a finger on it this time around, though. I had a lot of conversations around consent and immediacy, though, especially as they both relate to photography. I learned about raking for MOOP this year though!
I worried less about the people around me who were not living the 10 principles the way I did (were constantly taking photos/wearing feathers/being cliquish/etc) and focused on enjoying myself
Immediacy - being in the present moment takes a conscious effort. And I really do want to continue practicing Leave No Trace day-to-day
Immediacy is such a foreign idea outside of the playa & I wish that wasn't so.
Immediacy. Don’t try and make things happen. Go with the flow.
More about immediacy and participation. Intentionally took very few pictures, actively attempted to connect with more melons and participate around camp more.
NA
No
No
No new lessons
Nothing new, but I love the reminder prior to burn.
Radical self expression is hard
Some give, some take.
The default world is a terrifying place. :)
The importance of gifts removed from price but that was more from Tedx - Black Rock City talk than from being onsite It was interesting seeing some Melons try to not be self-reliant early on and then see that behavior manifest in growth or otherwise as the week continued
Was blown away by the communal effort of the camp - I felt like a citizen of the space immediately, and how to live calmly and open-mindedly on the playa was instantly modeled to me. Thank you for making my first burn so magical!
Yes
yes
Yes but I'm still working on that
Yes, because IMHO learning anything from Burning Man at all is learning because of the ten principles
Yes, thinking of life in terms of gifting (especially to strangers) is a shift for me
Yes! I don't really have specific words to describe what I learned, but throughout the week I felt that I understood the importance of the principles and their relevancy to me in new ways, especially radical self-reliance, immediacy, leaving no trace, and decommodification. We should decommodify the trucks and tents at camp better!
Yes! I learned a lot. More than I can write in this little box...
Yes.


55. Do you have any thoughts on The Ten Principles? Can we communicate them to fresh Melons and other Burners better? Should we?
A common man explanation might help. Maybe info cards hanging around camp?
As optional reading, sure. Adding commentary on the principles from a Melon’s lens helps them become less abstract and more melon-y.
Can we? YES. Should we? YES. I think the ten principles should be in one of the very first welcome emails that we send to new (and returning) melons. With succinct explanations for each.
Constant reminders at the end of emails or Facebook posts might really drive the message home more.
Decommodification stressed me out before BM because tiny logos are on EVERYTHING. I was putting tape on all of them, but sometimes the tape came off and threatened to become MOOP. Buying new, non-logo’Ed stuff wasn’t budget or planet friendly. Thankfully once at Burning Man, I realized that people only cared about covering the really egregious logos. I think that principle comes from a good place, but it can create a lot of contradictions when trying to enforce it.
Explain the difference between the Man burn and the temple burn early. Explain what the temple is before getting to playa.
I brought a few friends as burning virgins to the Melons this year. While I tried to prepare them for what to expect, and to communicate the 10 principles to them, some of it got lost in all of the logistical prep. It would be helpful for camp to have the 10 principles posted somewhere physically, to show how important they are to the identity of the community, especially to newbies.
i liked having discover the different meanings of each principle through talking to people around the city and exploring
I struggled to connect radical self-expression and immediacy to the Melon experience, but maybe that's just the lens I saw this through
I think just stressing that they really are at the core of the event and should be thought about seriously and an important part of pre-playa prep.
I think learning about these before the mad rush and how campmates have expressed this in the past, would be great.
I think there was a lot more emphasis on participating and inclusion this year, and it definitely made for a better experience for me. Just keep doing what you did this year - it worked!!
I'm all in favor of the ten principles. They help create the magic. Just introducing them as "part of Burning Man" seems enough. People who came to Burning Man presumably are game to partake in its principles.
Many melons do a great job thinking about, adhering to, and embodying the principles. I think that camp could benefit from a culture shift towards thinking more about how the principles apply and how well we're practicing them. Drinking game with watermelon based shots perhaps?
Maybe a quick and fun Virgin 101 class as part of the orientation or something? Certain principles seem to be missed and maybe a quick refresh early in the week would help.
Melon camp lacked inclusion/community. I am a natural extrovert and yet it was SO difficult breaking into the cliques of the camp. Sometimes I felt activity excluded and even condescended upon, especially by a couple xvc members. I felt more welcome at a handful of neighboring camps, despite my efforts to be a part of the melon community.
Melons are very welcoming but tend to stay in groups among themselves. And when we lure passers by with juicy fruity melon slices, we tend to be shy of conversation. Again, there were a laaat of melons napping during the ball. Maybe we should host it earlier in the week?..
No real thought to share via a survey but definitely can communicate them with new burners.
Nope.
Some people don’t really care about all ten principles
Talk more about them in camp
The importance of participation, especially in camp. We had one Melon who never showed for their dinner shift.
They are great, but new Melons have to adopt and acccept them as part of their commitment to the camp.
Tough question: getting people to internalize the Principles is important, but you don't want to beat people over the head with them. I feel like our camp is pretty well organized around the Principles, and the best training ground for going deeper is all of Burning Man itself. (If Burning Man can't instill its own principles in attendees, what can we do?) Perhaps one small step in the right direction would be to make a sign for each principle and put them up around camp in places where people will see them, and be reminded.
Yes we should. Maybe we should post them on the board or nearby? I was camped near a bunch of new people from other countries that seemed to know little and I picked up theirs feathers and trash daily and helped them often, I felt heundidnt know much.
Yes, I think there is value in communicating them more strongly to new Melons — especially LNT. This year I saw a new Melon with large chunks of glitter in their hair, and a lot more moop than last year.
yes, What about Consent, the 11th Principle?


56. What advice would you give to a new Melon?
Be open to new experiences. Say yes to the person who wants you to stop and do whatever.
Be open to new experiences. Talk to people who have gone before. Try to go to a build day, it's a great way to meet fellow melons!
Be prepared, don’t stress, and let go.
Bring an open mind and leave expectations on your kitchen counter at home. Respect people's boundaries, assert your own, but don't be afraid to expand them a bit. For Goddess' sake: WALK. Leave your bike at camp a few times, and see where your feet take you!!!
Bring more wipes and a better face mask.
Bring no expectations in to the playa with you.
Burning man is a lot of work.
Canvas tent was helpful for keeping dust out. Fans in tent are helpful. Approach a pink vest upon arrival. Melon ball on friday. Having your own cooler is nice but not necessary. Bring a vessel that allows for large water consumption (not only a hydration tube). Consider packing stuff on bike that lives there so youre always ready to go and dont have to run back and forth to tent procuring items throughout the day. Wear clothes that make going pee very easy. Hand sani is a must. Hat is very helpful. Costume tents can hook you up.
Contribute to the camp that gives so much! And ask how you can help
Dance more
Do not bring middle-weather attire. Bring beach attire and winter (not autumn) attire. Do not bring coffee.
Do not have expectations. Participate, volunteer, but do not overwhelm yourself. Freaking out is almost never warranted.
Don't be shy, make new friends! Melons are great. Try to sleep sometimes.
Don't come in with any expectations other than maybe you'll be dusty. Say yes to new experiences.
don't panic, talk to everyone you can, say yes (within personal comfort level and limits)
Don't spend too much time at Camp. Get out there so you don't fee fomo.
Don't succumb to FOMO.
Get A lot of LEDs Spend lots of time buying good costumes. It will improve your burningman experience
Go out on your own a few times. It can be easy to get sucked into hanging out at camp but there's so much going on at other places and other cool people to meet too.
Go with the flow. Help out every day, even in small ways. Don’t be afraid to talk to people. Don’t be afraid to enjoy silence, alone or in the company of others. You can sleep whenever and wherever you need to.
Have an open mind, don't be afraid to make a new friend & start a conversation with someone you don't know.
Immediacy, live in the moment, put the phones away
It is not easy to camp in a desert environment for a week.
listen to your body
Make an effort to talk to melons you don't know. Participate in a build day, to the extent you are able. And enter Burning Man with a completely open mind - how much you gain/grow is directly related to how much you open your mind, in my opinion.
Meh this is a stickup see, for over all your time and money! :)
pack less, enjoy more, trust the Melons
participate - step up- help out.
Pitch in and have fun!
Radical Self-Reliance is REAL. Ask questions. There are people who are happy to listen.
read all the emails!!
Read the emails. Read JRS. Ask questions. You got this.
Recognize that you’re basically walking into a family reunion. It’ll be fun to be there, but you may feel like you’re on the outside looking in until late in the burn when you’ve gotten to know some people.
Relax, enjoy, don’t judge, be open, participate at multiple levels in the camp. Explore on your own. Catch a sunrise on the playa. Sleep well, drink plenty of water! Do stuff with your fellow Mellons! Especially the 2 burns as a group.
say hi to melons anywhere around the city
Set personal goals and Expectations and participate as much as you can
Sleep more.
So much of this experience is easier for a first timer than in many other camps or solo experiences. Just be patient with yourself and willing to learn and help whenever/wherever.
Take time to chat with more people at camp - I wish I had.
Talk to the people in camp
Volunteer at camp and on the playa. Know that the Melons have your back but keep jumping for more.
We're very well-organized and have a strong internal community. Therefore you'll have a strong foundation for your on-playa adventures, and a safe, supportive & comfortable place to come back to when you've worn yourself out!
Woke hard, play hard, melon hard



59. Any thoughts or suggestions you'd like to share to improve camp next year?
(dumping remaining thoughts here) I would like to stop changing our name/theme every year. I think something like “Melon Family Recreational Movers” is fitting. A+ organization and shipping, as usual I would like more art, more folks excited and contributing to art. I don’t know how to make this happen, but I think about it lots. note to self: express interest in volunteering with BRC departments IN ADVANCE, remind friends I would like more of folks holding their referrals accountable, and slightly fewer new folks. I think it might make sense to have an early bird sign up for veterans. Distribution of labor is hard. How do we make folks who show up Monday or later know that there is still work to be done, that they can/should help, etc.? I still felt a lot of pressure to be doing things in camp after Sunday, despite the fact that I had (happily!) logged endless hours already. CaliCargo went pretty smoothly, but a cumbersome thing was money management. I think we could streamline it by sending folks their food stipend digitally at the start of the journey and using a Melon debit card for gas and other truck costs. I would like more interactive frontage! A big, warm, cozy fire area would be nice.
Camp. Was perfect, no issues
Can't think of anything right now..Love you guys. Camp this year was really really good!
Communication with 80 people is always a challenge, but I think we can always improve. I'd also really like to work hard on weeding out/preventing sparkle ponies - we get a few every year, and they're always obnoxious AF to deal with on and off-playa.
Drying racks of some kind in the kitchen. More dance parties.
Give each new virgin Melon a Melon Cap on the first dinner night they arrive as welcoming them to our camp and being a part of Melon Family.
Have LE Feedback forms available in the binder
I love it!!!
I think best practices for shade setup is important, because it can take a lot longer if it's built incorrectly, and it's the most frustrating thing to do right when you get to camp. (e.g., slide all the bungees in the shade fabric before you lift it up, have 2 people to lift it up on two ladders, use longer bungees for the corners, go around at least two poles for the corner bungees, use the longer poles for height, etc.)
I'm bringing hamburgers.
If Montana Dome is back maybe we could move it to the front so we have a lounge area that's not sleeping like the Melon Dome.
It would be awesome to include wood/duroflame logs as something everyone should bring or send in cargo. I missed having a home base to sit around a fire at night.
It would be great if I had the possibility to buy or "rent"/borrow a melon's bike who's not going to playa this year. Or I'd be willing to buy a bike next year and leave it with someone in the states (as in from far-far-away) and I'd also gift it to the camp in case I would not come the year after. Sounds like a hell lot of logistics but in case you knew how to facilitate this, e.g. through pre-playa communication. Maybe there is no need for this as most melons come from the US and don't have issues bringing a bike to playa.
Keep being awesome!
Let's make breakfast for dinner breakfast for late lunch on Saturday and strike the whole kitchen down to Kitchen A at the same time. Also let's not have anything get built after Monday.
Maybe a big early-week melon event or cruise to something to get new and old acquainted? Mini melon art tour or bar crawl or something.
Maybe a camp event on Monday or Tuesday to introduce everyone?
Michelle and Drew need to do less work and enjoy Burning Man more!?ˆ?«they are stars but we don’t want them to burn out!
more hammocks
More watermelon! Hehe. Thank you for everything!!!!!!!
More welcoming space for passersby to stop and spend some time. up the watermelon gifting game: watermelon slushies! Watermelon art car!
NA
No
Smaller population, more focused on core participating members, less supporting the sparkle ponies.
So many :)
Subcommittees?
Try to make load out easier. Buy water in bulk. Create a dedicated wash station
We should consider a permanent camp name. The annual pun thing is fun, but eventually (soon!) we're going to run out of decent puns, and it's confusing for other people. I've tired quickly of having conversations like: "Hey you guys are pretty cool, where are you camping?" "We're camping with the Melons." "Hmm I can't find you in the directory." "Oh that's because we change our official camp name every year... this year we're [insert name]." "Interesting… so how am I supposed to find you next year?" "Dunno? Study the directory for melon puns and then check out all the candidates? Good luck HAHAHA…" It strikes me as antisocial to undermine the main function of a name: something for others to refer to you by. We've got such a strong identity, let's just commit to it!
Work shift idea: to mitigate the on-playa strike woes, a work-shift option could be a Chicago cleaning day. For example: cleaning benches and stoves on playa is terribly inefficient and ineffective, especially if melons are willing to travel to Chicago to clean those items in the default world with lots of supplies (a pressure washer!) I would spend 2-3 days with melons in Chicago cleaning, over a strike shift that's frustrating, antisocial, and could take 2.5 times as long as scheduled.